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33rd Annual Lincoln National Guard Marathon
Half Marathon
Info
May 2, 2010 in Lincoln, NE
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Races
Marathon
Half Marathon
Wheelchair
Half Marathon - Results
NO
FN
LN
DIVISION
OVERALL
DIVPL
SEXPL
10 K
GUN TIME
TIME
PACE
1271
Christopher
Alexander
M4044
43
1/252
38/2180
40:10
1:24:23
1:24:19
6:27
38
Michael
Hemann
M4044
48
2/252
42/2180
40:28
1:24:54
1:24:52
6:29
1266
Stacy
Priebe
M4044
70
3/252
62/2180
41:18
1:27:56
1:27:54
6:43
1277
David
Nelson
M4044
77
4/252
69/2180
41:29
1:28:21
1:28:19
6:45
1276
Mike
Masek
M4044
82
5/252
74/2180
41:29
1:29:16
1:29:14
6:49
1338
Randy
Leeper
M4044
111
6/252
97/2180
44:37
1:31:08
1:30:57
6:57
1571
Abel
Cuevas
M4044
126
7/252
108/2180
43:18
1:31:41
1:31:39
7:00
1350
Todd
Mannon
M4044
127
8/252
109/2180
42:53
1:31:50
1:31:40
7:00
2501
Paul
Danson
M4044
139
9/252
118/2180
42:26
1:32:24
1:32:12
7:03
1344
Shawn
Allen
M4044
163
10/252
138/2180
44:09
1:34:44
1:33:42
7:10
1424
John
Skretta
M4044
170
11/252
144/2180
44:01
1:34:25
1:33:49
7:10
1361
Jeffrey
Bruntz
M4044
208
12/252
178/2180
44:09
1:36:20
1:35:17
7:17
1428
Tom
Volk
M4044
246
13/252
211/2180
44:59
1:36:58
1:36:29
7:22
2125
Jeff
Kirshenbaum
M4044
270
14/252
230/2180
47:16
1:38:27
1:37:06
7:25
1576
Brian
Boyce
M4044
284
15/252
238/2180
47:02
1:38:56
1:37:34
7:27
1557
Brian
Johnson
M4044
314
16/252
260/2180
45:37
1:39:00
1:38:20
7:31
2168
Scott
Reynard
M4044
326
17/252
269/2180
47:54
1:41:31
1:38:42
7:32
1709
Corey
Knop
M4044
330
18/252
272/2180
46:51
1:40:14
1:38:47
7:33
1575
Darren
Siekman
M4044
336
19/252
277/2180
47:08
1:40:45
1:38:59
7:34
1493
Kelly
Morten
M4044
339
20/252
278/2180
47:23
1:40:23
1:39:01
7:34
1712
Jeff
Eisenmenger
M4044
353
21/252
287/2180
46:53
1:41:09
1:39:24
7:36
1478
Tom
Macy
M4044
371
22/252
301/2180
46:15
1:39:48
1:39:39
7:37
1668
Rod
Fay
M4044
392
23/252
313/2180
46:55
1:41:07
1:40:00
7:38
1464
Mark
Hathoot
M4044
398
24/252
317/2180
46:40
1:40:31
1:40:06
7:39
3411
Steve
King
M4044
424
25/252
337/2180
47:46
1:45:53
1:40:51
7:42
257
Sean
Akers
M4044
435
26/252
344/2180
48:52
1:42:24
1:41:05
7:43
1483
Gary
Ware
M4044
455
27/252
357/2180
45:13
1:41:41
1:41:28
7:45
3557
Ron
Kudron
M4044
458
28/252
359/2180
50:09
1:44:11
1:41:36
7:46
2574
Brian
Terhark
M4044
464
29/252
362/2180
49:12
1:42:51
1:41:43
7:46
1777
Jon
Schernikau
M4044
476
30/252
371/2180
48:46
1:44:58
1:41:59
7:48
1469
Jeff
Kment
M4044
479
31/252
374/2180
45:36
1:42:38
1:42:02
7:48
2313
John
Petersson
M4044
485
32/252
378/2180
46:45
1:43:35
1:42:08
7:48
1666
Kevin
Nielsen
M4044
488
33/252
381/2180
48:58
1:45:57
1:42:10
7:48
1620
Darek
Lester
M4044
504
34/252
393/2180
44:48
1:43:02
1:42:27
7:50
1301
Thomas
Houle
M4044
507
35/252
394/2180
46:54
1:43:03
1:42:30
7:50
1482
Bob
Mangels
M4044
517
36/252
401/2180
48:05
1:54:24
1:42:43
7:51
2111
Trevor
Barton
M4044
520
37/252
403/2180
47:34
1:43:24
1:42:48
7:51
2031
David
Boever
M4044
551
38/252
419/2180
46:55
1:44:30
1:43:20
7:54
1492
Michael
Sears
M4044
556
39/252
423/2180
50:22
1:46:23
1:43:23
7:54
NO
FN
LN
DIVISION
OVERALL
DIVPL
SEXPL
10 K
GUN TIME
TIME
PACE
193
Joseph
Zugmier
M4044
573
40/252
433/2180
50:18
1:44:34
1:43:39
7:55
2738
Jerry
Wall
M4044
593
41/252
447/2180
49:57
1:48:26
1:44:05
7:57
2211
Neal
Randel
M4044
597
42/252
449/2180
48:26
1:54:51
1:44:08
7:57
2030
Matthew
Leif
M4044
616
43/252
459/2180
48:37
1:48:33
1:44:32
7:59
2233
John
Krajewski
M4044
628
44/252
466/2180
49:11
1:47:24
1:44:44
8:00
2376
Tom
Bredvick
M4044
631
45/252
469/2180
47:45
1:46:50
1:44:49
8:01
1499
Brian
Herbin
M4044
632
46/252
470/2180
47:00
1:45:05
1:44:49
8:01
3909
Chad
Winters
M4044
667
47/252
490/2180
48:02
1:47:52
1:45:23
8:03
2347
Randy
Horst
M4044
669
48/252
492/2180
50:15
1:47:40
1:45:25
8:03
1659
Timothy
Harpenau
M4044
676
49/252
495/2180
46:55
1:46:37
1:45:28
8:03
4013
Chris
Johnson
M4044
684
50/252
501/2180
50:08
1:48:35
1:45:33
8:04
1735
Daniel
Shively
M4044
691
51/252
506/2180
50:21
1:46:05
1:45:42
8:05
1540
Ron
Baker
M4044
756
52/252
551/2180
48:48
1:48:17
1:46:28
8:08
4116
David
Zauha
M4044
771
53/252
559/2180
51:34
1:52:12
1:46:43
8:09
2317
Monte
Meyers
M4044
788
54/252
570/2180
50:51
1:50:31
1:47:02
8:11
1703
Steven
Filips
M4044
796
55/252
575/2180
50:05
1:51:41
1:47:11
8:11
1495
Dean
Benson
M4044
803
56/252
579/2180
50:14
1:49:42
1:47:18
8:12
3304
Jed
Rojewski
M4044
815
57/252
585/2180
52:44
1:54:47
1:47:30
8:13
2154
Kenneth
Zarybnicky
M4044
839
58/252
595/2180
49:52
1:48:40
1:47:56
8:15
2561
Robert
Oats
M4044
843
59/252
597/2180
52:27
1:52:03
1:47:58
8:15
2770
Christopher
Sommerich
M4044
847
60/252
600/2180
50:38
1:50:46
1:48:02
8:15
7975
William
O'Riordan
M4044
881
61/252
619/2180
51:55
1:52:10
1:48:32
8:18
3644
Jon
Yetter
M4044
893
62/252
625/2180
52:43
1:57:17
1:48:45
8:19
1698
John
Olsson
M4044
899
63/252
629/2180
50:47
1:52:30
1:48:51
8:19
2577
David
Holt
M4044
949
64/252
660/2180
50:03
1:51:33
1:49:22
8:21
3088
Jason
Yandell
M4044
951
65/252
661/2180
51:47
1:52:06
1:49:22
8:21
4829
Tim
Jeffrey
M4044
966
66/252
668/2180
50:45
1:51:30
1:49:33
8:22
2394
Michael
Moravec
M4044
988
67/252
683/2180
47:39
1:51:06
1:49:51
8:24
2707
Jan
Madsen
M4044
993
68/252
687/2180
52:32
1:55:27
1:49:55
8:24
1798
Michael
Clawson
M4044
1017
69/252
698/2180
52:24
1:52:58
1:50:09
8:25
2845
Craig
Andersen
M4044
1032
70/252
706/2180
52:41
1:56:41
1:50:18
8:26
3153
Tom
Lombardo
M4044
1033
71/252
707/2180
52:42
1:56:41
1:50:18
8:26
4164
Chad
Peters
M4044
1095
72/252
738/2180
53:02
1:57:03
1:51:16
8:30
2351
Timm
Wilson
M4044
1136
73/252
757/2180
52:31
1:56:36
1:51:44
8:32
2547
Allan
Weber
M4044
1145
74/252
760/2180
52:31
1:55:28
1:51:48
8:33
1234
Mike
Heili
M4044
1168
75/252
773/2180
52:18
1:55:21
1:51:59
8:33
3317
William
Weed
M4044
1170
76/252
775/2180
53:50
1:54:47
1:52:00
8:33
491
Todd
McMartin
M4044
1174
77/252
778/2180
53:01
1:58:53
1:52:03
8:34
2778
James
Dodson
M4044
1184
78/252
782/2180
51:10
1:58:58
1:52:15
8:35
2848
Roger
Barloon
M4044
1194
79/252
786/2180
53:10
1:55:00
1:52:23
8:35
NO
FN
LN
DIVISION
OVERALL
DIVPL
SEXPL
10 K
GUN TIME
TIME
PACE
2371
Jeff
Wiens
M4044
1207
80/252
790/2180
52:13
1:57:55
1:52:33
8:36
2318
David
Clauson
M4044
1214
81/252
791/2180
53:21
1:57:59
1:52:41
8:37
2765
Daniel
Defreece
M4044
1222
82/252
795/2180
53:31
1:58:40
1:52:47
8:37
2464
Michael
Staffenbeal
M4044
1227
83/252
799/2180
53:05
1:57:03
1:52:53
8:38
2281
Lincoln
Williams
M4044
1240
84/252
805/2180
53:47
1:57:52
1:53:01
8:38
3438
Ted
McCarthy
M4044
1280
85/252
828/2180
51:25
1:56:51
1:53:20
8:40
2440
Matthew
Blankenbiller
M4044
1325
86/252
848/2180
53:26
1:54:23
1:53:57
8:42
542
Scott
Becker
M4044
1346
87/252
857/2180
54:30
2:01:36
1:54:13
8:44
4337
Chuck
Ricketts
M4044
1375
88/252
864/2180
53:37
1:57:31
1:54:35
8:45
2470
Tim
Carter
M4044
1394
89/252
872/2180
53:20
1:58:27
1:54:45
8:46
2321
Galen
Hansen
M4044
1401
90/252
875/2180
49:31
2:01:31
1:54:48
8:46
4166
Jeff
Huntington
M4044
1409
91/252
880/2180
53:46
2:03:40
1:54:56
8:47
3859
Todd
Holt
M4044
1430
92/252
892/2180
54:10
2:01:37
1:55:06
8:48
2102
Paul
Lofquist
M4044
1433
93/252
894/2180
53:11
1:56:23
1:55:07
8:48
3020
Brian
Gove
M4044
1445
94/252
902/2180
51:29
1:58:12
1:55:13
8:48
3160
John
Lay
M4044
1459
95/252
910/2180
54:22
2:03:36
1:55:20
8:49
2424
Todd
Eicher
M4044
1515
96/252
938/2180
54:52
2:04:34
1:55:51
8:51
3722
James
Paulsen
M4044
1598
97/252
967/2180
53:42
2:03:14
1:56:21
8:53
5120
Matt
Nelson
M4044
1644
98/252
989/2180
54:33
2:01:42
1:56:51
8:56
4146
Christopher
Wichman
M4044
1658
99/252
995/2180
54:07
2:01:03
1:57:02
8:56
4139
David
Draus
M4044
1677
100/252
1001/2180
53:14
2:01:20
1:57:08
8:57
2649
Troy
Wolford
M4044
1693
101/252
1010/2180
51:44
1:58:39
1:57:14
8:57
3142
Eric
Trettel
M4044
1727
102/252
1024/2180
56:50
2:12:15
1:57:31
8:59
5342
Dave
Grace
M4044
1729
103/252
1025/2180
55:47
2:03:27
1:57:32
8:59
2585
Daren
Blythe
M4044
1758
104/252
1038/2180
57:23
2:05:20
1:57:49
9:00
2864
Glen
White
M4044
1761
105/252
1039/2180
56:06
2:14:16
1:57:50
9:00
2410
James
Hahn
M4044
1770
106/252
1044/2180
54:52
2:03:59
1:57:53
9:00
2356
Jim
Desordi
M4044
1786
107/252
1054/2180
57:18
2:04:49
1:58:05
9:01
1417
Dennis
Mahin
M4044
1790
108/252
1057/2180
57:15
2:09:40
1:58:07
9:01
3864
Mark
Evans
M4044
1794
109/252
1058/2180
52:53
2:02:21
1:58:10
9:02
1997
Scott
Tontegode
M4044
1803
110/252
1062/2180
55:24
2:05:49
1:58:15
9:02
6036
Mark
Glosser
M4044
1820
111/252
1068/2180
56:42
2:08:37
1:58:25
9:03
3242
Brian
Schlautman
M4044
1844
112/252
1080/2180
54:26
2:03:28
1:58:40
9:04
3118
Joe
Lazure
M4044
1857
113/252
1086/2180
54:19
2:01:46
1:58:49
9:05
2791
Glenn
Walsh
M4044
1937
114/252
1124/2180
56:44
2:06:28
1:59:44
9:09
439
Lance
Larson
M4044
1956
115/252
1131/2180
56:51
2:06:06
1:59:51
9:09
2104
Mike
Kalb
M4044
1985
116/252
1141/2180
56:31
2:06:15
2:00:01
9:10
2824
Scott
Shaw
M4044
2014
117/252
1154/2180
59:09
2:04:08
2:00:15
9:11
3657
Michael
Kotopka
M4044
2050
118/252
1170/2180
58:37
2:10:30
2:00:38
9:13
5650
Jp
Ayubi
M4044
2091
119/252
1184/2180
58:17
2:11:52
2:01:09
9:15
NO
FN
LN
DIVISION
OVERALL
DIVPL
SEXPL
10 K
GUN TIME
TIME
PACE
4328
Don
Scheinost
M4044
2128
120/252
1194/2180
56:43
2:08:19
2:01:33
9:17
4004
Doug
Henely
M4044
2147
121/252
1200/2180
57:27
2:14:19
2:01:42
9:18
4350
Brian
Larrington
M4044
2181
122/252
1211/2180
58:43
2:11:49
2:01:56
9:19
726
Tom
Ahlschwede
M4044
2212
123/252
1223/2180
59:39
2:08:47
2:02:13
9:20
3324
Blaine
Boucher
M4044
2214
124/252
1224/2180
56:33
2:07:14
2:02:14
9:20
2428
Lance
Johnson
M4044
2229
125/252
1232/2180
59:39
2:09:39
2:02:24
9:21
4610
Toby
Sandal
M4044
2241
126/252
1237/2180
57:02
2:11:11
2:02:36
9:22
5349
Marlon
Lozano
M4044
2253
127/252
1243/2180
58:15
2:18:15
2:02:43
9:22
4995
John
Anderson
M4044
2259
128/252
1245/2180
57:02
2:13:11
2:02:46
9:23
4955
Michael
Keating
M4044
2269
129/252
1250/2180
55:01
2:07:42
2:02:52
9:23
4451
David
Chapin
M4044
2275
130/252
1252/2180
57:52
2:12:29
2:02:54
9:23
2368
Doug
Carr
M4044
2284
131/252
1255/2180
54:45
2:09:10
2:03:01
9:24
4545
Paul
Bryngelson
M4044
2286
132/252
1256/2180
56:13
2:10:26
2:03:02
9:24
5099
Scott
Erlenbusch
M4044
2296
133/252
1260/2180
59:36
2:10:53
2:03:05
9:24
3325
Scott
Reins
M4044
2335
134/252
1278/2180
59:41
2:09:07
2:03:25
9:26
7392
Greg
Mangels
M4044
2340
135/252
1282/2180
58:16
2:15:11
2:03:30
9:26
4498
Jeff
Niedbalski
M4044
2393
136/252
1295/2180
56:37
2:11:36
2:03:59
9:28
6015
Garrett
Eiland
M4044
2394
137/252
1296/2180
59:24
2:16:12
2:03:59
9:28
490
Brian
Petranick
M4044
2433
138/252
1311/2180
57:51
2:13:54
2:04:22
9:30
5334
Aaron
Dubberly
M4044
2435
139/252
1312/2180
58:28
2:16:54
2:04:25
9:30
3462
Layne
Lueders
M4044
2450
140/252
1316/2180
56:05
2:15:00
2:04:33
9:31
5860
Michael
Loll
M4044
2467
141/252
1319/2180
58:54
2:18:18
2:04:41
9:32
3640
Robert
Hollingsworth
M4044
2490
142/252
1328/2180
58:18
2:17:50
2:04:53
9:32
6341
Kenneth
Prey
M4044
2507
143/252
1334/2180
59:30
2:16:44
2:05:00
9:33
746
Todd
Tabor
M4044
2536
144/252
1342/2180
57:13
2:10:56
2:05:13
9:34
3626
Joe
Koch
M4044
2559
145/252
1349/2180
58:50
2:17:43
2:05:29
9:35
4414
Patrick
Kelly
M4044
2570
146/252
1352/2180
56:29
2:12:05
2:05:38
9:36
5029
Anthony
Biehl
M4044
2602
147/252
1360/2180
59:57
2:11:42
2:05:53
9:37
3837
Robert
King
M4044
2625
148/252
1365/2180
58:26
2:17:36
2:06:04
9:38
2300
Jeff
Wickett
M4044
2631
149/252
1367/2180
1:00:37
2:16:37
2:06:10
9:38
5493
Darin
Palmer
M4044
2637
150/252
1369/2180
59:25
2:15:17
2:06:13
9:39
2944
Stuart
Stofferahn
M4044
2658
151/252
1379/2180
58:12
2:11:06
2:06:24
9:39
4080
Karl
Weist
M4044
2669
152/252
1383/2180
56:56
2:26:08
2:06:31
9:40
2273
Andrew
Hoffmeyer
M4044
2672
153/252
1385/2180
58:25
2:17:12
2:06:33
9:40
5004
Bryon
Pickett
M4044
2689
154/252
1392/2180
1:00:57
2:18:26
2:06:46
9:41
4140
Gregg
Uecker
M4044
2695
155/252
1394/2180
1:01:59
2:19:46
2:06:49
9:41
7333
Lisa
Frericks
M4044
2752
156/252
1412/2180
1:01:36
2:16:42
2:07:18
9:43
1233
Andrew
Tweedy
M4044
2757
157/252
1414/2180
59:59
2:23:00
2:07:18
9:44
2106
Kevin
Ommen
M4044
2839
158/252
1440/2180
58:09
2:21:03
2:08:00
9:47
4426
David
Dicarlo
M4044
2842
159/252
1442/2180
1:02:07
2:28:28
2:08:01
9:47
NO
FN
LN
DIVISION
OVERALL
DIVPL
SEXPL
10 K
GUN TIME
TIME
PACE
2452
Christian
Kohler
M4044
2852
160/252
1444/2180
58:37
2:09:46
2:08:06
9:47
3737
James
Bennett
M4044
2855
161/252
1445/2180
1:00:23
2:19:11
2:08:07
9:47
6080
Jeramie
Swanson
M4044
2856
162/252
1446/2180
1:00:58
2:21:45
2:08:08
9:47
6008
Curtis
Klein
M4044
2857
163/252
1447/2180
1:00:59
2:21:45
2:08:09
9:47
5389
Gary
Lissy
M4044
2868
164/252
1449/2180
58:41
2:18:41
2:08:13
9:48
5675
Mark
Bridwell
M4044
2883
165/252
1456/2180
1:00:13
2:17:44
2:08:18
9:48
6031
Greg
Hanel
M4044
2915
166/252
1466/2180
58:36
2:16:24
2:08:36
9:49
2812
Matt
Nebel
M4044
2919
167/252
1468/2180
57:40
2:19:55
2:08:36
9:49
6201
Tim
Brox
M4044
2977
168/252
1481/2180
1:00:27
2:23:26
2:09:06
9:52
4458
Charles
Hayes
M4044
2981
169/252
1482/2180
1:01:52
2:20:58
2:09:08
9:52
3481
Michael
Surls
M4044
2985
170/252
1483/2180
59:12
2:21:52
2:09:12
9:52
4439
Bradley
Brehm
M4044
2990
171/252
1486/2180
1:00:52
2:22:41
2:09:15
9:52
4555
Russ
Teten
M4044
2991
172/252
1487/2180
58:24
2:21:26
2:09:15
9:52
4717
Matt
Buckwalter
M4044
2992
173/252
1488/2180
1:01:16
2:25:25
2:09:15
9:52
5215
Dan
Saunders
M4044
2994
174/252
1489/2180
58:24
2:21:27
2:09:15
9:52
2484
Greg
Boettger
M4044
3031
175/252
1495/2180
1:00:12
2:17:35
2:09:39
9:54
4282
Mark
Krings
M4044
3040
176/252
1498/2180
57:18
2:17:38
2:09:43
9:55
5750
Anthony
Marx
M4044
3085
177/252
1513/2180
58:00
2:18:15
2:10:07
9:56
3014
Steve
Miller
M4044
3113
178/252
1523/2180
1:00:04
2:21:31
2:10:26
9:58
4293
Daniel
Jones
M4044
3115
179/252
1525/2180
1:03:15
2:27:16
2:10:27
9:58
4262
Chad
Soupir
M4044
3139
180/252
1530/2180
1:01:06
2:16:23
2:10:39
9:59
5757
Troy
Martin
M4044
3140
181/252
1531/2180
1:01:17
2:26:51
2:10:41
9:59
3365
Ken
Washer
M4044
3142
182/252
1533/2180
58:50
2:22:11
2:10:43
9:59
6058
Doug
Durham
M4044
3188
183/252
1550/2180
1:00:58
2:30:22
2:11:11
10:01
730
Kelly
Slater
M4044
3195
184/252
1553/2180
1:00:31
2:22:29
2:11:14
10:02
5619
Mohammed
Quader
M4044
3216
185/252
1558/2180
59:27
2:25:53
2:11:29
10:03
6160
Keith
Sewell
M4044
3218
186/252
1560/2180
1:00:56
2:27:19
2:11:30
10:03
5072
Dave
Hall
M4044
3254
187/252
1568/2180
59:00
2:24:45
2:11:53
10:05
6806
Marty
Walter
M4044
3267
188/252
1573/2180
1:01:45
2:26:40
2:12:05
10:05
244
Wallace
Johnson
M4044
3273
189/252
1575/2180
59:07
2:21:22
2:12:12
10:06
488
Erick
Hill
M4044
3275
190/252
1577/2180
1:01:55
2:25:52
2:12:12
10:06
572
Charles
Awbrey
M4044
3296
191/252
1584/2180
59:16
2:20:38
2:12:28
10:07
3697
Kevin
Konecky
M4044
3347
192/252
1602/2180
1:04:24
2:34:31
2:13:02
10:10
7048
Robert
Webber
M4044
3447
193/252
1632/2180
1:03:34
2:30:48
2:14:12
10:15
4824
Dean
Post
M4044
3469
194/252
1641/2180
59:51
2:23:55
2:14:27
10:16
4213
Kevin
Hurtt
M4044
3479
195/252
1645/2180
56:24
2:19:24
2:14:32
10:17
4089
John
Stoppkotte
M4044
3562
196/252
1662/2180
59:55
2:23:41
2:15:25
10:21
1387
Roger
Ramos
M4044
3578
197/252
1667/2180
1:03:31
2:30:01
2:15:35
10:21
4331
Chuck
Ford
M4044
3603
198/252
1675/2180
59:59
2:25:44
2:15:51
10:23
4418
Brian
Reetz
M4044
3636
199/252
1681/2180
1:01:55
2:31:12
2:16:13
10:24
NO
FN
LN
DIVISION
OVERALL
DIVPL
SEXPL
10 K
GUN TIME
TIME
PACE
5968
Jason
Hayes
M4044
3656
200/252
1686/2180
57:12
2:20:15
2:16:30
10:26
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